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Elon Musk Calls on Trump to Pardon Ex-Cop Derek Chauvin, Who Murdered George Floyd

www.democracynow.org Elon Musk Calls on Trump to Pardon Ex-Cop Derek Chauvin, Who Murdered George Floyd

Elon Musk has joined calls for President Trump to pardon ex-Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, who was convicted of murdering George Floyd in 2020. A Trump pardon would end Chauvin’s 20-year sentence on federal convictions for violating Floyd’s civil rights, but Trump does not have the power ...

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Do you want riots? Because that's how you get riots.
- Yes, actually. Riots give them an easy path to invoke the insurrection act.
  
  It's so weird how people in power play the most dangerous games in countries where the population is not disarmed
  
  A bunch of civilian rifles stand no chance against drones 30k feet in the air dropping guided missiles or the ai controlled murder dog robots they’ve been showcasing the past couple years.
  Plus, what is the disgruntled American town going to do when an abrams rolls down Main Street? They’re just as prepared as afghani villagers when that situation comes to pass.
  
  Does it matter though? The people with the most firearms are the most indoctrinated. And besides that, Americans have always talked about needing the right to bear arms to dispose of a tyrannical government, but it seems like people aren’t even putting in the effort to vote or protest, let alone taking out the fascists. So what exactly is the point of all the guns? Besides the purpose of supplying all the criminals in both Mexico and Canada with illegal weapons
  
  for all the guns americans have, theyre clearly too cowardly to use them for anything outside of school shootings
  
  Exactly. Just shows you what a bunch of pussies they really are. I’d kick so much ass in an elementary or middle school. i wouldn’t even need a gun.
  
  Does your mom know you're talking to strangers online?
  
  I dunno. Ask her when you’re done with her.
  
  You don't get to watch our local news reports. Plenty of people get smoked every single day by gunfire. Fuck someone's wife , cut them off in traffic , call them a snitch ,bump into them in a bar, throw snow from your driveway onto theirs 💥💥💥. It could be anything that gets a bunch of new holes added to your meat suit
  
  Sure but they all whine they need them for incase government be bad. Now we have a situation and they are all quiet. The only reason Americans need guns is to make the small minded can't see their own penis men fell powerful. I have never once in my life thought I sure would feel safer with a gun. Ok maybe but not in the city.
  
  Is that supposed to prove Americans are not a bunch of cowards? Because it does the opposite.
  
  lol..i live near Cleveland dude. trust me, i know.
  
  My bad thought you were French or something /s
  
  No worries! I did almost become Spanish for a year. But, had to put that aside for now.
  
  There was the one guy who tried to snipe the orange man at a rally, so there was that.
  
  Are you just ignoring all the instances where this statement isn't true or do those not count because two guys you don't like are still alive?
  
  ?
  
  I'm assuming you're saying this because no one has killed Trump or Musk yet. That's sort of nonsensical considering the former has had at least two attempts on his life in the last year. Important people get shot at on a fairly regular basis in America.
  
  The first one wasn't a real attempt. It was for the photo OP
  
  Greed make you do dumb shit.
  
  and where we lack affordable access to mental health care!
  
  Be careful with your reasoning, my friend. Just because they want it doesn't mean they would survive it.
  
  No reasoning my friend... Just a statement. You're projecting think.
- actually, yes. I think they do.
  
  Not saying you're wrong just want to understand youre thinking why would they want riots? Isnt that the only real threat to them?
  
  Triggering division as an excuse for suppression is Dictator 101.
  Your political opponents are lawless? That means you can legally crack down on them.
  It has the side benefit of stirring the shit/divisions which is what keeps Trump in place.
  
  Makes sense thanks for explaining
  
  Mhm. It’s understandably counterintuitive, and indeed a problem for "regular" politicians.
  You'd think it would make Trump lose support, and to some extent it does, but I guess you also have to understand how warped the US information environment is. Anyone who cares about George Floyd and actually sees this in their news feed would not support Trump anyway, whereas that’s not the case for nearly any past president. Supporters who see the riots would write them off as not Trumps fault.
  
  Enact martial law, take over all legislation, be a dictator. Job done.
  That's why he's firing everyone at the top of the military who isn't a white male.
  
  trump has been looking to apply the insurrection act since his first term. with the various sycophants in congress and the executive, there has never been a more opportune time (other than tomorrow, of course).
  as to why... well, trump has gotten even more messianic since his first term. suppression of dissent would be a powerplay that may yield significant dividends, showing loyalists the need to stay in the camp and detractors what happens when you resist.
  just my 0.02
  
  Thanks to the weakness of our system and certain pathetic losers holding their values and personal ethics over the national security interests of the United States nothing was ever done about trump's sedition. I will never forgive our previous president for not doing exactly what needed to be done to deal with the DOMESTIC THREAT to the constitution that he was sworn to protect by not eliminating the republican party/scotus/and a certain billionaire. Had our previous president made the 'tough call' that presidents are required to make to protect the nation and the constitution then we simply wouldn't be in this position. I will never believe that our previous president wasn't briefed on the threat posed by all of this and wasn't fully aware of everything. There will never be any excusing him allowing things to happen this way. The man was in his 80s even had he been in any legal trouble over this his life is functionally over at this point fuck him for doing nothing when he was the only one who could achieve this on his own.
  
  Authoritarians equate fear with respect. Aggressively putting down a riot makes people scared = people respect them. It is the same reason Putin jails critics inhumanely or Kim kills families of defectors in NK. If people lose their fear of them these despots are powerless.
  
  Huh. Makes sense then, the pardon. Jesus Christ.
- Dude will still spend 22.5 years in prison even with a pardon.
  
  Non American here, how does that work?
  
  The president can pardon him on federal charges. He still faces the 22.5 years on state charges. Basically, he was convicted of murder in Minnesota, and then civil rights violations in federal court.
  
  Assuming that they don't pressure the governor of Minnesota to pardon him as well.
  
  Not sure Walz would do that. Next governor... No idea.
- I wouldn't be surprised if that is not the point.

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