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Dé-fédération de hexbear

jlai.lu /post/333352

L'année dernière le sujet a été abordés par @AlexisFR@jlai.lu et je souhaite relancé l'idée de dé-fédérer de cette instance.

Je navigue depuis quelque temps sans bloquer la moindre instances question de simuler un peu l'expérience de quelqu'un qui rejoint le fediverse via l'instance jlai.lu.

Les posts qui apparaissent dans le fil et le comportement de la plupart des usagers de cette instance pollue tout simplement l'expérience Lemmy.

Même sans parler de possible liens avec CCP, Kremlin etc... je pense que, à mon humble avis, leur comportement et leur façons de brigader et de diffamer une opinion qui ne diverge que d'à peine d'un poil de leur courant de penser, va sincèrement à l'encontre de l'état d'esprit de notre communauté sur cette instance.

Je me suis opposé sans vraiment me prononcer l'année dernière à une dé-fédération (étant donné qu'ils ne sont pas francophone et que j'aime bien le drama inter-instances de temps temps) mais leurs prises de positions en permanence ahurissantes et (en pesant mes mots au maximum) d'une flagrante dissonance cognitive je dois dire que trop c'est trop.

Je pense sincèrement que malgré le fait nos intéractions soit assez minimes avec cette instance je pense que sur le long terme leur influence est nocive et que, dans l'idée de garder une certaines sérénité pour les personnes et futures personnes qui utiliseront cette instance, qu'il y ai une dé-fédération de cette instance de la notre.

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  • You could ask me directly instead of whatever this is.

    I accused this user of being a fascist. If 12 people are seated at a table with 1 fascist, tell me how many fascists are seated at that table.

    This user is a fascist because they're doing the same generic anticommunism routine that all of the right-wing forums do. Create an anticommunist hysteria around a nonsensical boogeyman, widen the net as the next person they disagree with is also part of the sneaky non-white conspiracy against them, ratchet the community rightward. That specific process is why reddit is reddit. If someone's doing the same old trick on the Fediverse, I don't care if it's this forum with 8 monthly users I've never seen before or Lemmy.world/Lemm.ee with fresh content feeds. It attracts the same people and ends in the same place.

    This goober thinks they're being gangstalked by Russian spies because someone on the internet disagreed with 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝒾𝓇 𝓅𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃. Before you clutch your pearls about me calling them a fascist, the first question you should be asking is what that position is and what's so offensive about the Hexbear stance on it. Generally if we hate someone or something there's a pretty good reason for it.

    • Tbh, your agressive terminally online ketamine fulled diatribe does not help in giving a good picture of the instance you're defending.

      Luckily, being a tanky ironically or not is not enough to warrant de-federating from an instance.

      • You've convinced everyone with an attention span too short to read their comment and believe they can get the gist by reading the shorter response.

        Anyone who actually read their comment and your description rightly see you as cowardly, stupid, and unhinged.

        Your backhanded way of avoiding an argument is to paint their comment in a certain light and ignore its content. I haven't seen anyone say this obvious truth out loud yet so I will.

        • Your backhanded way of avoiding an argument is to paint their comment in a certain light and ignore its content. I haven’t seen anyone say this obvious truth out loud yet so I will.

          The point is that there is no argument in the first place, no one here intends to defederate from hexbear, and you and your mates coming here aggressively and acting like unhinged assholes unprompted in a meta-instance discussion does not help.

          This post is just OP having his jimmies rumbled and asking if because of it if can cut one of the oldest instance from our fedlist.

          • For someone now saying there isn't an argument, you sure did use three consecutive angry adjectives in the same sentence to respond to their comment.

            You've got quite the imbalance of nerve and self reflection, crying about people being aggressive and acting like unhinged assholes after how you just acted.

            All you do is illustrate how profoundly meaningless your words are. You use the same invective to someone being reasonable as you do someone scolding you.

            • For someone now saying there isn’t an argument, you sure did use three consecutive angry adjectives in the same sentence to respond to their comment.

              You’ve got quite the imbalance of nerve and self reflection, crying about people being aggressive and acting like unhinged assholes after how you just acted.

              You should have realized that I adapt my tone to the one I respond to, by like, reading?

              All you do is illustrate how profoundly meaningless your words are. You use the same invective to someone being reasonable as you do someone scolding you.

              I don't think we have the same definition of reasonable, might have been lost in translation I guess.

              • You should have realized that I adapt my tone to the one I respond to, by like, reading?

                See? You literally just say shit that has no connection to reality. Here you claim to read. You have proven to everyone that you do not. Not only by your ignorant handling of the original comment you replied to, but also now by ignoring both my statement and reasoning behind pointing out that you DO NOT adapt your tone to the one you're responding to!

                Nothing you say means anything because everything you say is predetermined by your attitude alone. You don't read. Even if you did it would have no effect on what your opinion or response is. It has been shown now twice.

                I don't think we have the same definition of reasonable, might have been lost in translation I guess.

        • Anyone who actually read their comment and your description rightly see you as cowardly, stupid, and unhinged.

          Ah oui quand même

          • J'ai pas vu d'aussi beau troll depuis des années. Faut dire que je suis devenu bon à les éviter mais notre pauvre admin vient de se prendre celui en plein le coin de l’œil.

            • "Pauvre" admin. C'est un des meilleurs ippon de jlai.lu, un Teddy Reiner, amha ça le gonfle et l'amuse 😁

      • Everyone I don't agree with is on drugs (which makes them an inferior person not worth listening to), a definitely-not-fascist bedtime story for smug internet liberals.

        • Not only do I disagree with OP and therefore agree with with your mate, but I don't have any issue with drug use.

          My issue is with the fact that ketamine fulled drivel is not the best way to communicate with people and be correctly understood, speaking from experience.

          • Nah, that's the kind of weak dodge I would use back when I was a liberal casually saying ghoulish dork shit. If you use "ur prolly on drugs lol" to dismiss the argument of someone who is speaking with perfect clarity, you're just being a little snotty fuck looking for any excuse not to take in scary new information that might make you feel bad.

        • To be fair I'd love to write ketamine-fueled rants but it costs like $500 for a dose here. The best I can offer is coffee and sometimes-cannabis-fueled.

      • Tbh, your agressive terminally online ketamine fulled diatribe does not help in giving a good picture of the instance you’re defending.

        Luckily, being a tanky ironically or not is not enough to warrant de-federating from an instance.

        👍