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  • Your denial is meaningless. The spoiler effect is proven. Voting 3rd party has cost elections. If you really don't want Trump to win you'd vote Harris, say you were, and clearly state that reality gives you no real choice otherwise you'd vote for whomever. An intelligent stance that acknowledges that you are forced to choose a lesser evil lest 5th grader logic result in the greater evil winning.

    If there were primaries, or any 3rd party actually had a chance then by all means vote your conscience. That isn't the case so act your age instead of petulantly voting against your interests just because thinking is hard. Trump will thank you otherwise.

    You want to discuss all the mistakes and perversions of/in the system that got us stuck in this mess with no way out that isn't a cop-out I will stand by you and commiserate fullheartedly. But get real in the meantime.

    • If you really don’t want Trump to win you’d vote Harris, say you were, and clearly state that reality gives you no real choice otherwise you’d vote for whomever.

      No thanks. I'll vote for who I want to and who best aligns with my values. And that's not Trump or Harris. :)

      • And when Trump wins because Harris lost a battleground state by 700 votes a progressive 3rd party got instead what will you say when the US starts sending weapons to Israel en masse?

        • Why would I say anything? I'm not voting for Trump.

          If the Democrats are truly worried about losing votes to a third party, they could adopt policies that actually reflect the values of those voters instead of just expecting us to fall in line.

          My vote isn’t driven by fear. If Harris loses by such a slim margin, it’s not the fault of third-party voters—it’s the Democrats’ failure to address the issues that matter to us third-party voters.

          • Ohp, Trump just sent a plane load of MOABS to Israel.. If only that could have been avoided. You didn't vote for him so you got no worries though , except he just announced anyone pro-Palestine be sent to Segregation camps... sleep soundly with that clean conscience on your wooden mattress.

            • If only that could have been avoided.

              Yeah, maybe the democrats should have been better and won the election!

              Yyou didn’t vote for him so you got no worries though

              That is correct. I won't be voting for him.

              except he just announced anyone pro-Palestine be sent to Segregation camps… sleep soundly with that clean conscience on your wooden mattress.

              That claim is absolutely ridiculous and nothing more than an over-the-top exaggeration. There’s no reality in which such extreme policies would be implemented, and statements like that just serve to fuel unnecessary fear and hysteria.

              Let’s stick to the facts and not dive into wild, unfounded hyperbole.

              You are free to vote out of fear. I won't.

              • I can't hear you. You and your ilk have been declared a threat to national security and don't have access to any form of public communication. If it helps, one of your family or friends that registered not 3rd party have retained a lawyer and are attempting to free you on compassionate grounds. Even if they can prove a lack of mental competence to stand trial it will still take years to make the case. Enjoy your guilt-free gruel until then.

                The death toll in Palestine has exceeded both Trump and Netanyahu's expectations so they've announced 2 more shipments to Israel.

                If only there was some way you and your compatriots could have prevented this horror from happening by getting Harris the few votes she needed, distasteful as it might have been.

                • ou and your ilk have been declared a threat to national security and don’t have access to any form of public communication.

                  Carrying on the fictional scenario I see.

                  If only there was some way you and you compatriots could prevented this horror from happening by getting Harris the few votes she needed, distasteful as it might have been.

                  It's not my job to "get" Harris or the democrats any votes. I don't like her and I won't be voting for her. That's the job of the democratic party.

                  I'm voting for the candidate who I like. Just as you are free to vote for the candidate you like.

                  Enjoying my gruel right now actually. Thank you!

                  • It’s not my job to “get” Harris or the democrats any votes

                    No, but it is your job to break large rocks with a mallet all day until Bubba says you can stop. Rumour has spread that Jill Stein fled to Russia, and that Trump signed into law a ban on all unions except for the police.

                    Shame there was no possible way you and your comrades could have strategically voted that could have prevented all these and more opposites-to-your-'intentions'.

                    • If the Democrats are truly worried about losing votes to a third party, they could adopt policies that actually reflect the values of those voters instead of just expecting us to fall in line.

                      My vote isn’t driven by fear; it's driven by the need for real change, not the same old promises. If Harris loses by such a slim margin, it’s not the fault of third-party voters—it’s the Democrats’ failure to address the issues that matter to us.

                      • The time for Dems to worry was way back when voters had the opportunity to do so strategically and completely avoid the calamity. Now, they are too busy trying to filibuster and otherwise block all the far-right and autocratic BS Trump and the Reps attempt to ram through congress. That and whether they should buy a time-share in the Bahamas.

                        The only thing that matters to you and your bunk-mates now is consuming enough calories to stay alive. Well, that and the H3Z2 virus that's rampaging through the squalor of your pens. You've even stopped caring about Palestine as you spend your nights praying for a vaccine. Instead, Trump issues bleach and syringes, or a horse diuretic (your choice) to test as potential cures.

                        IF ONLY there was a way these poor prisoners could have voted strategically to avoid all this completely unnecessary suffering only they (and the Palestinians) are experiencing.

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