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Hey could we defederate with exploding-heads.com/

The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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  • Defederation should be the LAST and FINAL option. From what I understand, this is a small instance that isn't causing much trouble outside of their instance. Block them on your own! I'm on lemmy.world, but personally I would like to keep up to date on the shit they post. I don't think we should start going around defederating communities that we disagree with, even though their opinions are shit, vile, offensive, and disgusting. Leave it up and block them on your own.

    Edit: 10 years ago I used to be one of those intolerable fucks. Yes - exactly like them. Until I talked to other people on Reddit, real life, and listened to other ideas. I had a change of heart and hope even a couple of them could too. It happens.

    • 100%

      I don't like how r/conservative handles their moderation but I don't think their subreddit should be nuked.

      But things like Men Going Their Own Way, and The Donald or any other subreddits promoting violence and direct hate deserve removal (or de-federation). De-federation should be used as a tool of last resort. For places who are turning to actual violence or outright hatred.

      I cannot stress how strongly I disagree with exploding-head's stance on Trans rights and racism but if someone has an odious opinion on gender affirming care or trans athletes then they should be met by people who counter their ideas. Simply cutting them off into isolation provides zero chance of changing their minds.

      I understand that some people have no interest in debating people who disagree with them, and that is entirely ok. Block any community or poster that you find offensive but defederation is not something that should be used regularly.

    • Yes exactly. Just like there are idiots in real life, we ignore them and move on. Everyone is entitled to an opinion even if we disagree with it. Sure people can spout some nonsense devoid of facts we can down vote if thats the case .

      You might disagree with someone on politics but like the same sports team for example. There are humans on either side so like in real life we can get along and don't need to agree on everything.

      If something is illegal or its hate speech or something like that then report and block the user and the content.

      If you don't like a community you can block it but if we shut off instances all of the time I can guarantee you the fediverse will just turn into isolated echo chambers and we'll all be forced back to corporate walled gardens.

      If we can coexist in real life we can coexist here.

      We need our views challenged to grow. Being corrected is a good thing thats how we learn. Life is short at the end of the day let's not try to take it too serious.

      ❤️

      • holy shit, how do I even begin to explain that you can't just "ignore" Nazis and racists and transphobes and letting them keep their platform

        you do understand that they hurt real fucking people, right????

    • "personally I would like to keep up to date on the shit they post"

      The shit they post is the gateway to worse things for some. You're still free to go check what's going on over there, it doesn't mean they should have access to our space.

      • gateway to worse things for some

        so you're basically saying "there's nothing wrong with this, but let's ban it anyway because it may be a little wrong in the future"?

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