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  • I'm pretty sure centrists think we're bad because we want to abolish private ownership of the means of production, unless "leftism" means something else where OP is from.

    The political center wants to maintain the status quo with regard to private property.

    Edited for clarity.

    • A big problem of this entire argument, particularly when Americans are making it, is that nobody seems to agree on who the "centrists" and "leftists" are supposed to be.

      Turns out social democrats are pretty sure they're leftists, but everybody else self-identifying as a leftist is convinced they are indistinguishable from free market liberals, while free market liberals think they're center left while social democrats are pretty sure they are indistinguishable from neocons.

      Unless you're in the US, where apparently social democrats are both far left and communists, the word socialism has about as much meaning as a Rorschard test card and hard left people seem to be a figment of an AI's imagination in that they appear to exist exclusively online.

      So yeah, I really don't know what the OP is talking about, honestly.

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