So apparently Chuds are losing their shit about the Paris Olympics opening ceremony being super queer.
Lol, getting mad about the important things as always.
Apparently they've been saying the blue guy had his balls out or some shit? I didn't see anything like that. Bro was wearing blue modesty shorts as far as I could tell.
Sadly i dont think American Chuds are remotely the only ones that had a negative reaction to this . So however funny their anger is i'm more ambivalent over whether these shows and performances in stuff like the Eurovision or the Olympics are a net positive for LGBT acceptance worldwide.
Lgbtq+ acceptance is regretably political issue worldwide with a wide range of attitudes and social concervativism being the statuus quo in a lot of the developing world (exported there in large part from western colonization ironicaly) . The best route towards increased LGBT rights and acceptance in most countries is the slow and grueling fight of domestic organic movements for such rights alongside their economic development and to avoid the west acting as the flagbearers and being seen as the "preachers" of those movements, conlfating them in the eyes of many with western cultural hegemony or neoliberal capitalist erosion of local cultures and the general misstrust people hold towards "what the west stands for".
So imo for 100s of millions of non westerners seeing a mediocre drag show in the forefront of the most watched global cultural event that they thought was "apolitical" and "universal" sadly reinforces in their eyes the image of the lgbt/queer movements as western cultural exports, creates another layer of ideological friction against them and so damages the potential of organic domestic movements fighing for more acceptance and rights.
And despite these performances being a small part of the opening ceremony the culture war centered discorse in global social media dominated by western companies, algorithms, media and trends means that this and the relevant "controvercy" is and will be what is blasted in the face of everyone worldwide when they open the news or facebook/twitter/YT and be forced to have a reaction to it
Being queer is apolitical and universal, anyone who doesn't feel that way should fuck off forever. If you don't support my rights you should legitimately be put in a gulag.
edit: oh also, if you're a racist, and you don't think some races deserve all the human rights you do, you should fuck off forever and be put in a gulag.
Being queer should be apolitical and universal. Im describing the existing reality where the struggle for lgbt rights and acceptance isnt . And im stating my opinion on whether performances in such an events a net positive in a context of the current poltical world climate and domestic movements.
An absolute shitton of people in non western countries dont support lgbt rights and as i said this social conservativism its often 19th and 20th century colonial import. 100s of millions if not billions shouldnt be thrown in gulags for their social conservativism. Their countries should be given a chance of geniune non neoliberal economic devlopment and the social changes that comes with and the betterment of lgbt rights and acceptance movements should come from the, admittedly gradual and grueling, natural struggle of domestic organic movements and groups.
At least thats my belief. To this end the more LGBT acceptance is conflated with western and neoliberal cultural hegemony and the more westerm capital, ngos and government pretent to be the moral crusaders of such causes on the world stage the worse in my opinion. I think i gave enough detail on how thay plays out in regard to the topic in my original comment
An absolute shitton of people in non western countries dont support lgbt rights
They should fuck off. Same with people of other bigotries.
100s of millions if not billions shouldnt be thrown in gulags for their social conservativism
"social conservatives" absolutely deserve to be put in a gulag. Fucking slimy and disgusting fuckers.
Their countries should be given a chance of geniune non neoliberal economic devlopment
Absolutely agree with you there.
Being economically disadvantaged is not an excuse to be a bigot and take other people's rights away. It's not an excuse to be racist, or homophobic, or any other shit. Fucking examine your bigotries people. A gulag would be a nice place to give people who still hold on to those bigotries a chance :)
Im not in the lgbt community and of you are i understand your anger and wont say you are wrong. I just think that since that social conservativism in large part has it roots both in colonialism and in the subsequent economic underdeveloped under the global imperialist western regime i cant be too vindictive towrards them as individuals. I laid out how i think things can get better and thats where my comment comes from
No its fine, I just get pissed at social conservatives and what they have done to so many groups. It also pisses me off that now the focus is lgbt people. I don't see people saying we should keep women or racial groups out of things, or we shouldn't celebrate them, because what if some bigots from somewhere get pissed off. I don't know what the actual best political strategy for winning rights is. I just fucking hate bigots, and I hate that pride is the only group people do this with.
I'm not angry at you, just the situation. Sorry if I came off that way.
The majority of the world is probably what you would call social conservatives. "Maybe if we arrest enough people the problem will fix itself" is a liberal and explicitly anti-materialist viewpoint. Look at the conditions that cause bigotry, not the products of those conditions.
I hate the majority of the world, yes. How can I not?
Of course actually arresting them is not an actual plan. They will arrest me or people like me for being different instead. And I hate them for it. And I hate them for all the other bigotries they have.
It's not trolling though. They're just there. What is the alternative, don't have gays in events and TV shows because people might make up a conspiracy?
I didnt say that it shouldnt have been in the opening ceremony. Im just considering the sad reality of that with the way world politics and contradictions and media works it may very well be a net negative for the progress of lgbt rights worldwide, not in a conspirational short of way .Tho its not that serious on its own.
Wether you think its good that it happened depens on how you judge such think and how much weight you give on weighting such performances in such an event as a natural and organic manifestation of lgbt acceptance and progress in the west that reflects their values against more more opportunistic and performative rainbow capitalist stuff