I am shocked, I say. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.
I am shocked, I say. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.
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Well if you want fascists to keep winning you have to right attitude.
We have well over 50 years of evidence that attempts at top down change always backfire. If you don't want weak willed beholden people being nominated for leadership roles. Focus on filling all the offices beneath them with people who aren't.
Even had Sanders made it into office. He would have struggled continuously to accomplish anything with all the people underneath him.
It is a literal yet unfortunate fact that we must hold our noses and vote for anyone who stands a chance at beating a Republican in a national presidential election. Until such time as the parties have been taken over by people who wouldn't nominate someone like that.
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Here's the hitch:
It is a literal yet unfortunate fact that we must hold our noses and vote for anyone who stands a chance at beating a Republican in a national presidential election. Until such time as the parties have been taken over by people who wouldn't nominate someone like that.
This strategy guarantees that the parties will keep nominating someone like that. (After all, they keep winning.) There's no mechanism for replacing the party leadership in it, nor any realistic scenario by which it would happen.
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That's nonsense. Literally improving the pool of candidates will improve those selected. Further once enough are replaced, they will be able to accomplish things regardless of who's president.
There's literally no point in replacing the president if the congress opposes them.
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Okay, which version actually happened over the past 50 years—yours or mine?
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Mine. We focused on the top and lost everything including the legislative base.
In the late seventies the unions didn't feel that Democrats had done enough for them so they decided to punish carter. By not endorsing or supporting him. In the end we lost both Carter and the unions. If only They had focused on addressing the legislature that could have actually changed something. And not let Reagan get in power.
This isn't an isolated example. In fact, of the three branches of US government. The presidency is one of the least useful ones to hold. It's nice to hold. But if you want to actually pass laws Etc you need to legislature. And a court that isn't beholden's big business to instantly overturn it. With enough people in the legislature they can force the president to sign it with a veto-proof majority. The president can't do any of that. At best they can make me transition Smoother by agreeing to sign the legislation. But that's it. It's basic civics I guess they don't teach that in school anymore though.
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This already happened in 2016, why am i the only one who remembers?!?!
Supporting one side of the Duopoly keeps us in the Duopoly forever.
Get over the democratic party, many already have
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I'm an anarchist, but can acknowledge reality. Stop spouting nonsense and get over yourself. The rest of us have.
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Nah this time the Neoliberals can get with the program or get out of the way.
Or do you hate democracy?
How are you gonna save democracy unless you vote for the people I tell you to vote for?
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Look into how democracy falls to fascism. One of the common traits is the far left and the center left fighting each other while a unified right takes control.
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And you choose to contribute to it instead of letting leftists have a turn after 50 years of stagnation.
I'm done coddling the Neoliberals.
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Doing nothing, whilst being very shitty, is definitely better than doing active evil.
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This has been the rhetoric for 50 years.
The last 50 years have lead to where we are now.
It's time for new rhetoric besides "well the best we can hope for is a steady decline instead of a drop!"
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Nope. Isn't happening, no matter how much you promise the devil.
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Wtf does this even mean?
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You're somehow incapable of seeing that you just described your own political ideology.
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Why am I not surprised that your response is, "NO YOU!!"
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